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Вітя

But America needs a sane opposition party to remain a good society, dude. I understand your distancing yourself from politics, but though you may not like politics, politics likes you.

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IVK

Thanks.

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Interesting. How did you meet? Do you have common interests?

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I have not been thinking that way.

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Chizhune4ka

We met in Italy many years ago... We have friendship for along time... Yes ofcourse we have same interests such music, books and dances

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macavity?

Ok) You may also have some practice with me here I don't think we'll be able to keep up with our US residents though... Two levels of english seem to function here)))
You really consider the possibility of US to adopt socialism as a prime politic course?? I don't thonk so, honestly... It'd sooner get even more trouble by expanding democratic borders in society, but socialism... nah

Вітя

it is a common belief among the american Right (the Republican party, mostly) that Obama is a socialist, the Democrats are socialists, and they are just trying to turn USA into kinder, gentler USSR.

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macavity?

Hmmm.. can't see how they gonna do it. To much to be totally remodeled in spheres of commerce, industry, ownership, real estate...

Huh.. You've reminded mу the name. Obama..
I've once seen CNN episode from Iraq. Long ago. One of the military guys was interwieved by Chelsea Clinton, who was a kind of volunteer journalist there. The question was - you are so brave. Is there anything you are afraid of?
The guy's reply was:
" -- Only three things... Osama, Obama and your mama...")))

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IVK

Who cares? Let's just talk and improve skills.

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macavity?

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Where are you from then?

Al Capone

I don't think Obama and Democrats will succeed in transforming USA into a socialist state but I think they will try to move closer to it. Judging by Obama's associations with the likes of red terrorist Bill Aires and others and by his declared intention to "spread the wealth" (by taxing the "rich" to give to the "poor") he is a socialist.

Here are the things that are planned and implemented:
1. huge expansion of the government at the expense of private sector
2. promoting unionization of the workforce, favoring unions over
management
3. expansion of social programs, moving to universal healthcare rationed
by government
4. taxing the "rich", cutting taxes for the "poor". The "poor" that don't pay
taxes get a check from the government anyway
5. taking a huge stake in private companies by the government
6. silencing conservative voices by enforcing "fairness doctrine"
and many other things.

Вітя, I expect that you will call all of this rubbish, paranoja, etc. but for me this is a real danger of transforming America I love into something much less appealing.

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Мне очень не нравится внешняя политика США, поэтому я предпочитаю жить внутри.

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Вітя

I was living in the America I loved in the late 90ies... then came the clampdown, the witchhunt atmosphere, the infernal deficits with nothing to show for them, the continuing chain of embarrassments abroad... For me this is return to normalcy -- Obama is like Clinton, only with better management skills and without the dropping-pants problem.

I don't like the one-party state idea, but it's not within my power to stop GOP's self-inflicted implosion.

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IVK

Location today - USA. Activity - research.
Citizenship - Ukraine; so, I am from Ukraine.

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Al Capone

Please forgive us for talking too much and let us know if we can help you improve your English in any way. I sware I was not planning to get into political discussions here.

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IVK

Where do you live now?

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macavity?

Wasn't the same happening during Clinton's being at the WH? I remember him planning to do the same, to lay the tax burdain onto those with yearly income more than 250000$?
Majority of natives i know - speak the same of US of 60-s

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"Liar, liar..." (c)
Must admit - i've never crossed the border of Ukraine in my entire life)))) For now - Kiev. But i am somewhat of a redneck, who came to the capital to earn some gold))))

IVK

Nice! Is there any special books do you like to read? I like sci-fi, fantasy. I read recently "Дяченки, "Королівськя обіцянка" та "Ключ від Королівства"" I love their books. What about you?

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